Nppl to install anti cheating monitors into paintball guns..

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Nppl to install anti cheating monitors into paintball guns..

Post by trum_15 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:14 pm

thought this was interesting.

http://www.propaintball.com/2011/03/rumor-nppl-to-install-anti-cheating-monitors-in-paintball-guns/

im not sure I like this idea.

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Re: Nppl to install anti cheating monitors into paintball guns..

Post by Sniper71 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:54 pm

Well it wont effect us danny...I had a bunch of conversations about this earlier today...there will be some interesting things that come out of this whole fiasco on the pro level....

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Post by trum_15 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:03 pm

I know it won't. i just think its a pretty dumb idea.

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Post by Sniper71 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:17 pm

Not really...if the devices being implicated put everyone on a legit level playing field electronically it will show who is really who. There is alot of little tweaking and cheating that takes place through out all the pro divisions wether it be psp or nppl, this will not stop the cheater boards theoretically, if anything it might cause more problems in the future......

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Post by trum_15 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:28 pm

its this part right here that i don't really lik

(requiring soldering and the expertise of a trained technician to install it). If the wiring harness or solder joint fails, is it the sole responsibility of the installation or chip manufacturer? When the connection between the board and the solenoid fails, the marker is un-fixable on the field–and thus, you’re playing a man down. Who is liable for these losses?

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Post by Sniper71 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:42 pm

Propaintball plays the devils advocate all the time...they just say and do things to keep the players on there side. There articles on things of this nature are usually on a slippery-slope style of writing. Underneath it all there is usually some form of hidden agenda anyway...

Try clicking the link to go to the article on propaintball and watch the advertising that shows up directly in the top, do it several times and watch and see what "board" company shows up alot. Do it several times clicking and closing and you wil see ...... Wink

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Post by Stanks on Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:40 pm

I personally think it's an excellent idea. I would have liked them to provide a little more notice about the change though.

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Post by Northern Xtreme on Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:13 am

Why did they ever allow ramping if they are worried about rate of fire?
It used to be semi auto only? Not very many humans can shoot more than 15 bps in semi.

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Post by trum_15 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:24 am

nppl is semi, psp is Ramp. and a lot of people today can rip over 15.

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Post by Stanks on Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:37 am

Northern Xtreme wrote:Why did they ever allow ramping if they are worried about rate of fire?
It used to be semi auto only? Not very many humans can shoot more than 15 bps in semi.


A good deal of people can shoot over 15 now. Ramping was invented in a day and age when people were starting to wonder the capabilities of a paintball marker and rate of fire was one of those capabilities.

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Post by Northern Xtreme on Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:47 am

Well if a person can shoot more than 15 bps in semi I dont see how that could be considered cheating.
They should just open it up to full auto and be done with it.
If you are going to throw that much paint you would need one of those miniature donkeys to carry your paint onto the field. Shocked

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Post by JSmith on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:48 am

This whole thing sounds like a money grab by Virtue, why can't they just use Pact Timers instead of F'ing with peoples guns?

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Post by Sniper71 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:03 am

Because the pact timers can be sidestepped by switching a mode on field and the cap can be bumped slightly, in that atmosphere its somewhat hard to hear and notice a difference between 15 and 17 bps for alot of refs theoretically, this is where the whole cheater boards theory comes into place...This way nobody will have a opportunity to be mashing any buttons in the heat of the moment out there and gain that slight edge needed to overcome...

I personally believe if your going to play semi it should be uncapped anyway and really seperate people by there gun skills and abilities...

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Post by short207 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:44 am

What happened to tournament locks?

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Post by Stanks on Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:04 pm

short207 wrote:What happened to tournament locks?


I've never had a ref. come to ask me to demonstrate that my marker had a "tourny lock" activated. With this chip or however they are going to do it, this would assure everyone is keeping legal.

It also takes a little bit of time to demonstrate you tournament lock is on.

There are so many boards out there with cheater modes and gangster modes. You can literally shoot the first 10 or so shots in semi, then the marker will go into full auto or ramp and as soon as that lane is done, marker will go back to semi.

Is it a good idea? Yeah.
Is someone going to make money off it? Of course. There is a good bit of $$$ to be made on this and nothing is ever free.
Should there have been more notice? Oh yeah. At least a few months instead of a few weeks.
Who will benefit? The players, refs, league, and companies.
Who won't benefit? Those stubborn enough to disagree with it.


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